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What more did you expect???

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snowconedeity

Morons in the chat and vlr. He said since may 7 he’s been investigating which means it has been only around 17 days. You expect every team to be called out? You can see the betting sites, how bray reached out so nonchalant to players like practo, all of this and more indicates a pattern. yet again as people don’t realize there is real legal action required for accusations. Just because someone is ass and you WANT it to be bc match fixing because that makes more sense than losing, doesn’t mean that’s the case. He opened up pandora’s box now showcasing the blatant match fixing and cheating with Fair, and the crypto betting with bray. So if you’re so desperate for other answers, find them yourself and see how libel and slander treat you.

#2
termtermtermterm
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ngl I just thought these guys were shit but now I know they are shit and making more money than me

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kfan4238173
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yeah i have no idea how people can say they expected more. he gave damning info on blue otter and a good shout for 3 other teams

maybe some people dont understand why certain things are suspicious? like they dont know what theyre watching

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snowconedeity
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yeah that’s part of it for sure, but most people were probably just expecting pros to say “I AM MATCHFIXING AND CHEATING HERE IS MY RECEIPT” like idiots. There will be some scrutiny for sean because it’s his team that blue otter was against which could impart bias, but he was fairly neutral i thought. Yet again, he’s one person he cannot gain as much info as an entire group of people. He stated what he could legally and that’s as good as we’ll get. The repercussions will be huge though praying Blue Otter get disqualified.

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they dont get how hard it is to get the info about them without pulling attention to yourself. hes working through T2 players to get the evidence which gets deleted half the time anyway. now moving to telegram makes it 10x harder. they just wanted a list bcos they cant even watch the full video. they all want tldrs and summaries

#7
Skyns
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which 3 other teams?

#9
kfan4238173
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he said bray mentioned prosperity and burger boys

also there was a bet ticket of ~130k for a tsm/ambrosia game

#8
uwukitten
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idk if "these 2 teams might also be cheating" is a good shout + he didn't show any conclusive evidence for the alleged cheating. half the times he pointed out players not clearing an angle it was completely normal, does he expect them to clear 5 angles at once? even tier 1 players will often ignore multiple angles if they have a read on where the guy is playing

#11
snowconedeity
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he showed inflated betting on those teams though which is still implicating crypto throwing or manipulation from it.

#12
kfan4238173
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okay so theres a guy who pays off players to throw regularly, got caught texting 3-4 players just recently, and that same guy name dropped 2 teams. i think thats a pretty good tip

#4
ARix145
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He literally ended the career of 5 players and people are saying they half the region gone

#5
Kyronnn
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tbh I expected a full coffeezilla type vid but that was never gonna happen lmao

fair is obviously guilty the clips are too obvious

#13
u
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he has been calling it the "appetizer" and constantly making comments that its just a tip of the iceberg that hes making people and riot aware of.
people just hyped themselves up hoping for a big list confirming their own suspicions/hatred about players and falling for the troll posts like sym tweeting envy logo lol
i wasnt disappointed at all, im confident this will start waves of investigation by riot or at least have more players speak up or "rat out" others.
its very hard for a single person to uncover shit like this which quite literally needs receipts for 100% proving anything, so im glad he made a very much of a spectacle out of this to get as much attention as possible

name dropping 3 teams from 1 vcl region is huge already

#14
snowconedeity
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yeah i fear the generation is just cooked and has no patience

#15
capital_d_colon
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It feels like Seans hand was forced with how things came out in the first place.
There was definitely some evidence of matchfixing going on with the players involved with Bray.

However, the way things have been handled will/have resulted in witchhunting.
I just hope a proper investigation can be conducted despite the smoke.

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This thread will help me identify who are the mature one's of VLR

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