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Vote - 25 TH vs 22 LOUD

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#1
reremus

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Quick Rundown: Doing a randomly seeded bracket of all the best teams from every year. Vote each round until one is left.

Assume each team is in their prime form and is on the latest patch.

Please look below for previous results. Bolded are the winners.

ROUND 1:

2022 LOUD beats 2021 GAMBIT (58% of votes)
2023 FNC beats 2023 DRX (100% of votes)
2023 EG beats 2025 T1 (85% of votes)
2025 G2 beats 2024 EDG (85% of votes)
2022 PRX beats 2022 DRX (88% of votes)
2024 TH beats 2021 ACEND (62% of votes)
2022 FPX beats 2021 SEN (90% of votes)
2024 GENG beats 2021 FNC (100% of votes)
2021 ENVY beats 2025 GENG (72% of votes)

ROUND 2:
2023 FNC beats 2023 PRX (75% of votes)
2023 EG beats 2025 G2 (52% of votes) (closest match yet)
2025 TH beats 2022 PRX (80% of votes)
2022 LOUD beats 2022 Optic (62% of votes)
2024 TH beats 2025 SEN (83% of votes)
2022 FPX beats 2024 SEN (57% of votes)
2024 GENG beats 2023 LOUD (65% of votes)
2021 ENVY beats 2024 G2 (71% of votes)

Quarter Finals Results
2023 FNC beats 2023 EG (61% of votes)

Current Matchup

2025 TH vs 2022 LOUD

At this point, we are in the quarter-finals, I will be leaving the vote up for a full day. I will bump it throughout the day to make it fair to vote at all times.

#2
orangejuice
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loud (loud won champions + 2nd in masters + heretics already missed the first masters)

#91
sentinelmain377
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easily LOUD 22

but i dont understand one thing

why is this including 2025 teams when 2025 isnt even over yet?

also if we are adding DRXs, where is TL 2021 at

#92
reremus
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  1. Because this was never supposed to be a "who has more trophies" kind of voting, at least in my head it wasn't. It was supposed to reflect which team had the highest peaks, performances and talent throughout the VCT. So while 2025 isn't over and not every event has a winner, we have seen good, even great teams form this season.

  2. I guess not memorable enough for me. Sorry :p

#93
Cerati
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W bro, people don't understand

#3
cameran
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Loud

#4
bE
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25 TH

#5
TenzZek
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loud

#6
Prancer
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Th

#7
egann
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th

#8
Number1_Keiko_Fan
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TH

#9
Baitpass
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TH

#10
sinkyourhead
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TH

#11
vindrew
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idk th is looking very good but idk if they can beat prime loud so ill go loud on this one

#26
Cerati
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Loud prime couldn't do anything against the current TH. Loud 2022 wasn't as incredible as it seems for winning the champions. If you compare it to current teams, it clearly falls short.

#33
Meishi
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This comparsion is just unfair, cause the game is totally different today than it was 3 years ago. But I genuinely believe that if loud 2022 had the time to study and adapt to today's valorant it would win against th

#72
DavidGloc
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ofc brazilian opinion + alt accounts for +frags

#94
reallylargelemon
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well I assume they mean like relative to their time, so like how good TH is in 2025 vs. how good LOUD was in 2022

#41
morgue
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then you could just say any more recent team beats any older team, thats not how it works. its if the players were in the current meta at that skill level and had adapted etc, so if the players co existed in the same era assuming prime form.

its 100% loud

#42
Cerati
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in themselves, the players of th are clearly individually superior to those of loud 2022
although they adapt as a team, some players simply fail to advance and get used to the current level of valorant.

#76
lorenzopajaroFC
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 the players of th are clearly individually superior to those of loud 2022

KKKKKKK

#90
Cerati
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Where are the Loud 2022 players currently?

  • Saadhak: "The goat igl" is in EMEA, unable to adapt to the meta, just like last year... 2 years in a row without being able to adapt.
  • Sacy: Retired.
  • Less: Losing in EMEA.
  • Aspas: On a good team and qualified for Masters.
  • Pancada: Well, not much to say... Good individual level, but nothing beyond that.

and the th players?
each one is in the best form ever

#95
lorenzopajaroFC
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Less has qualified for the same amount of internationals as heretics this year

And all the 5 players have, just this season, won the same amount of trophies as this heretics roster in 2024-25

#96
Cerati
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and y'all keep talking about trophies lmao
"this was never supposed to be a "who has more trophies" kind of voting, at least in my head it wasn't. It was supposed to reflect which team had the highest peaks, performances and talent throughout the VCT"

#97
lorenzopajaroFC
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Yeah silly me for looking at a team’s achievements when trying to measure their quality

#77
flanador
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Flair + Your region hasn’t accomplished anything noteworthy since arguably the worst/flukiest champions.

#12
morgue
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2022 loud what has TH done in 2025.........

#13
ssamehere
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TH

#14
KenH
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Loud bruh

#15
ARix145
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Why tf are people saying th loud at peak was just insane

#25
Azzelastia
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Delusional memeatards

Fraudnatic was not better than EG 2023.
EG won Champs.

#43
cameran
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Downvoted for saying the truth is crazy

#75
DavidGloc
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ye someone love to create alt alts and disvote who write the truth xd (brazilian community be like)

#16
yuriito
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laudi

#17
EdsonTresPernas
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loud

#18
CHEEEZPUFZEZ
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Loud

#19
mustafais
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Th

#20
Bigfish
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TH

#21
MrHyphon
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Loud

#22
glittering_yard
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LOUD

#23
performaa
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LLL LOUD

#24
Derkeyoru
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Loud not even close. lets compare the players

saadak>Boo
aspas>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>miniboo
pancada> woot(Lmfao champs mvp)
Less>Benji(fortine fruad)
sacy> reins (in terms of utility) reins> sacy(shooting)

#74
DavidGloc
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India: (current ) reins>sacy miniboo is better rated duelist in 2025 than aspas woot>pancada benji>less

#27
Azzelastia
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Loud

#28
Cerati
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TH!!!!!!!!

#29
alienista1
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Loud

#52
alienista1
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why am I being downvoted?

#56
morgue
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emea people online + newer fans dont understand old loud

#30
cocow7k
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TH

#31
noudlez
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TH

#32
UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe
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TH

#34
Quavers
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TH by far

#35
lakpx
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TH

#36
c4rrotstix
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Loud and its not even close?

#37
Sanest_Alfajer_Fan
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TH

#38
Mortadelo
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I'm extremely biased for EMEA but why is TH winning xD
2024 maybe case could be made

I suppose it's because the voting is in EMEA time

#39
Nitrololo
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TH

#40
bruhmphrey
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Loud. Coughing bomb vs Hydrogen baby

#44
cloudberry
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LOUD

#45
Miyuky
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TH

#46
ynuser
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Loud lmfao

Why so many memea bots are spamming th

#47
deadpark
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Loud

Water is wet

#48
w1atrak
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TH

#49
foythvlr
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how is this even a discussion
how are people even saying TH lulz
its loud and its not even close

the only one who could even be arguable on individual level is riens
every single other criteria tends for loud

#50
darklord69
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heretics

#51
Hyxagon
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loud

#53
Raijin05
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Loud

#54
nxck
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LOUD wins without any problems, better IGL, better duelist, better supports, more experience, better coach, better smoker, better lurker, better tactics,
you guys are either ragebaiting or dumb as fuck thinking poo and minipoo are winning a 1v1 against ANY of the LOUD players in 2022 bruh

#55
Vatsug
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LOUD

#57
LearnerBoy7873
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LOUD

#58
TheOnion
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Nostalgia merchants saying loud, TH SWEEP

#59
Derkeyoru
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LOUD SWEEPS

#60
seven_glazer
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LOUD

prime sacy scans them boys' underwear with sova darts

#61
TheOnion
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What the hell boy

#63
aexbigb0t
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Wait whaaaaaaat

#62
nobody___100
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LOUD

#64
Ory
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loud

#65
burritx
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team heretics - didn't qual to bangkok
loud - 2nd in Masters Reykjavik, grouped in denmark, 1st in Champions

No amounts of glaze will make saying th > loud reasonable 😭

loud clears

#66
Divine_Thunder
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ppl saying th over loud is crazy. loud 2022 is like one of the best teams to exist lmfao

#67
melvinkoekemans
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loud

#68
mysc_
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loud
idk how people are voting for th based on REGIONAL matches

#69
Raftlot
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LOUD ofc

If th wins one international + goes well on the other then we have an argument, but as of now there is no doubt

#70
michaelisupset
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loud

#71
Zykkie
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LOUD

#73
uwukitten
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Heretics

#78
1ski
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bro why is trashetics getting that many votes

#79
teilwal
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LOUD is the only correct answer

#80
lorenzopajaroFC
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Loud obv

Eurotards still mad none of their teams got even close to beating 2022 loud

#81
burritx
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aspas ta 9-3 contra time europeu em internacional e o sacy 6-3 kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk os caras simplesmente nao trocam com os 2 goats ate msm dps da loud

#82
lorenzopajaroFC
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Se vc for olhar todos os jogos da loud 2022-2023 eles so perderam uma vez e foi aquela entregada pro supertime da fnatic, e até ai eles sao o unico time a ter um H2H positivo contra a fnatic

A Europa nunca trocou, por isso ate q eu esperava q essa KC do saadhak fosse ser melhor do qé

#86
Divine_Thunder
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2023 eg is more closer to loud than th is closer to 2023 eg

#83
skibiditoiletfanhuge
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LOUD

#84
1ski
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Loud

#85
Emmy_TOF
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Who care LOud

#87
Merkwurdichliebe
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LOUD

#88
catNmouse
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LOUD

#89
Abcdefg
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LOUD clears these chokers

#98
31Raven
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LLL 2022

#99
Mylotic
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LOUD and is not even close

#100
deadpark
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u guys from EMEA back in 2022 saying that FPX would win the whole thing, ended up in 4th. Now u wanna say that this trophyless TH is better than prime loud? Ok, guys, whatever makes you sleep better

#101
UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe
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TH

#102
UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe
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Team heretics

#103
UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe
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Heretics

#104
ScoutViolet
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Loud stop spamming bro

#105
Congo1
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Doing a poll on 2025 Heretics when we havent even played the second masters is very stupid

#106
Unincognito
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TH

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