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Riot Response Sinatraa vs Flor

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#1
yukky

Sinatraa: https://x.com/valesportsna/status/1369711283197472769

Flor: https://x.com/ValorantEsports/status/1924200821660528777

Notice the difference in the response?

Update: Riot are now hiding tweets telling them to name drop https://x.com/ValorantEsports/status/1924200821660528777/hidden

#noticing #food4thought

#2
Genesis_0
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me when I ask for a change then said change happens:

#6
yukky
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Name drop vs No name drop

Insta suspension vs 'assess whether these allegations affect the individual's future eligibility'

#8
x_knowitall39_x
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flor aint even playing how they gon suspend them. kinda braindead comparing the 1 who isn't even on a main roster vs 1 who had the game that very weekend

#10
yukky
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Well flor can still be picked up by another team or subbed on by Apeks (even if they aren't going to do it)

The possibility remains, while Sinatraa was hit with an insta suspension

#12
x_knowitall39_x
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youre now fighting hypotheticals. you might be challenged

#15
pistolroundVyseUlt
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🪞
even albeit extremely unlikely its the professional way to handle things

#17
x_knowitall39_x
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fight with downvotes cause you know that logic is braindead. you got it my goat

#18
yukky
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yeah it’s a hypothetical, but that doesn’t change the point.

if someone can still be picked up or subbed in, they’re eligible.

if riot thinks something deserves a suspension, it shouldn’t matter if the person played that weekend or not.

treating them differently just because one was active and the other wasn’t doesn’t make sense.

#41
Yuniee44
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Riot do not need to suspend someone that is not actively participting in VCT. They can make a decision on this if flor decides they want to return to tier 1 at some point. Anything else would be stupid, as itd imply riot would have to investigate every single valorant players criminal record and preemptively suspend them because theres a chance theyll play pro some day lol.

#46
yukky
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nobody’s saying riot should go dig through every player’s past just in case.

but flor is still on a franchised team and this stuff’s public now.

sinatraa didn’t get a “let’s wait and see if he comes back” lol. he got suspended right away when they started the investigation.

so it’s fair to ask why it’s different now.

#49
Yuniee44
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Is flor still inactive on Apeks? If so then nvm what I said, ur right.

#51
yukky
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No worries

Yes she is: https://www.vlr.gg/team/11479/apeks

She still has a buyout too as confirmed on her leaving tweet

#44
x_knowitall39_x
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Riot didn't suspend Flashback either. The policies have changed from 4 years ago compared to now after they royally fucked up sinatraas case. I can't tell if you're implying that riot is biased for flor, and if not, I can't see whats the point of this thread

#47
yukky
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not saying riot’s biased for flor specifically, just pointing out the inconsistency.

if the policy changed, cool, but then riot should say that, and NOT hide tweets pointing out the inconsistency.

don’t just act like this is how it’s always been.

the thread’s about how the response to stuff like this still feels all over the place depending on who it is and when it happens.

#68
nexxonolo_
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chet got suspended for scrim sharing when he wasnt even near to joining a team or anything

#55
Big_Pringle
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If they wanted to change they should revise their original one. And honestly they should take it down and apologize to Sinatraa as he’s innocent

#3
TeoEmil
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LMAO what a fucking joke

They’re even hiding replies what a fucking joke

#4
pistolroundVyseUlt
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shamelessly tryna protect their trans pr its over just give it up bro

#38
pistolroundVyseUlt
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the LBGTQ employees of riot will hold their own trans values and identity PR over treating all players equally-so that the LBGTQ representation's dignity does not get damaged, and they fail to realize what is more important and whats not.

#45
Hynix
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riot priorities:

  1. money
  2. PR
  3. rape victim

vile behavior

#57
Yuniee44
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We have known this is every corpo giants priorities forever now tbf so its not surprising. Still it is kind of a baffling thing to do. Nothing wrong with being pro LGBT but the primary stance to take on this issue is just fuck rapists and nothing else. Not treating this case as harshly as others is awful and should be upsetting for anyone of any political belief.

#63
pistolroundVyseUlt
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true, letting ur own political values dictate the way of how ur handling a serious legal rape case is not only incredibly selfish, but also deeply unprofessional in terms of handling things.

#5
tofubun
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hypocrites

#7
ARix145
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Damn this is sad

#9
Greedy000000
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riot is a fucking joke

#11
unfertile
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rito woke ahh company just tryna please the lgbtqwizlwoqpsr+ community part 19832983129382

#13
CubeEnjoyer
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It's almost like they got backlash for how they handled sinatraa's case and are now handling the situation better.

#14
glittering_yard
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"JAY WON (SINATRAA)"

"A COMPETITOR"

KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

#16
sp0rtsman
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i think i made a good decision returning to cs, even in the state it is rn, its still better than this fuckass abilities only game + rito being woke

#19
Liwus
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Who is this sinatra guy and why you guys love him so much?

#21
yukky
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I don't necessary, but I'm just comparing the differences of the two responses to when the allegations came out

#24
pistolroundVyseUlt
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all are equal under the sun
its only natural and fair and as a professional company with public PR you are obliged to treat all players as equals

#20
AleAlejandro
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Yeah they should have suspended flor that would really make a difference

#22
yukky
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#6 and #18

#23
Stotram
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Can someone tell me what happened? I was away for more than a week.

#25
unfertile
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there is a dude playing in the women's league, who sexually assaulted a girl with his big weener

#26
sp0rtsman
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cooked

tldr: flor accused of r*pe

#27
yukky
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Flor r*pe allegations

https://x.com/kar_ie/status/1923617491781034150

I made this AI summary, but you should check out the full document too:

https://www.vlr.gg/489754/flor-exposed-pt-2-ai-summary

#36
Stotram
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Damn, and Jay got an instant ban with his name revealed, and they didn’t even mention Flor's name?

#37
yukky
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Yes lol, and now they are hiding the tweets telling them to namedrop

#28
zetydy
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Sinatraa's case had a lot more supporting evidence than Flor at the time, including a pretty damning voice recording. The way they're handling this honestly isn't too inconsistent with how they've handled other similar cases.

I'm pretty sure Sinatraa's case came literally right before the first international masters too, whereas Flor isn't even currently playing.

#67
mosthatedplayersRise
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“pretty damning” 💀💀

#29
pepthefrog
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Well yeah most people that work at Riot are pro-trans or DEI hires so don't be surprised

#34
sp0rtsman
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grass is green, this pisses me off tho

#30
Mortadelo
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They can't really suspend Flor until it's solved because she already left xD

#32
yukky
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She didn't leave, she is still on Apeks

In her tweet leaving she said:

Several other VCT teams even showed interest in buying out my contract these last couple weeks and Apeks told me I could explore those options for Split 2 if anything made me happy and allowed me to continue competing

So given that there is a buyout, she is still on Apeks, just inactive

#48
Mortadelo
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Fair but she ain't coming back anytime soon

#33
bobwoblob
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Yes they can. They can put a temporary ban on Flor from competing like they did with Sinatraa. Flor not playing right now doesn't mean she can't suddenly decide she wants to play tomorrow.

#43
vo0kashuFan
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I mean technically they can. there was an incident with Sinatra in 2022 where he tweeted like an email saying he was ok to compete then later riot suspended him again for something. So technically they can.

#31
zellsis_enjoyer1
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the fact that both are frauds and overrated by their fans is a crazy coincidence

#35
ZANEy
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SHAMELESS COMPANY

#39
shrike-
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wait this is actually really shameless

#40
AvgRossiFan
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Ofc rito is biased, letting an alleged SAer work is such a PR disaster.

But this is the right approach, what they did with Sinatraa was wrong, police should be the one investigating SA allegations not a fking video game company

#42
TotallyNotAnAnalyst
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sinatraa>flor overrated bum

#50
Salmonella
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flor is riots golden goose bro, she gonna be getting that golden treatment

#52
A_Scuttling_Turtl3
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this is because they use the name that is in the GCD. for flor, its blank because GCD uses legal names but that is flor's dead name.

#56
pistolroundVyseUlt
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who the fuck cares ab some fucking dead name bs when its literally a rape case LMFAOOOOOO

#65
A_Scuttling_Turtl3
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just like its wrong to use he/him pronouns for flor, its also wrong to use someone's deadname. just because she is a piece of shit doesn't mean you should misgender/deadname people

#66
NRGSUPERFAN
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could've used her pro name no?

#54
flnnss
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nah thats so shameless

#58
taint
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Transformer Privilege.

#59
Uribaba
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love how they are getting cooked in the comment section

#60
The_Ancient_One
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fucking clown riot.
Now they are even hiding the comments.

#61
SudokuDude
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This time they're actually investigating without immediately suspending but even now that's not satiable for anyone xd

#62
jamONE
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That's sad af. treat anyone with allegations the same, otherwise they're just showing preferential treatment and bias. It's messed up for sinatraa to go thru all that and flor got nothing. what a joke.

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